he's not really interested in reining in spending in almost any other area except national security. he said the sequester, which is the $1.2 trillion in cuts that are scheduled to go in effect, which disproportion athlete affect defense spending, the president said during the campaign, ain't going to happen of the well, it's going to happen. it's going to happen here in about six weeks. >> steve: before you go, something that looks like will happen is it looks like it's bipartisan plan to reform immigration. what do you think? >> i hope so. we'll hear from the president this week, but it really requires presidential leadership, like so many of these issues, because it's easy for people to sort of get off in their corner and argue their particular agenda. but it's hard to come together on big complex -- >> steve: so it's up to the president? >> it's up to all of us, but the president's got to play his role as commander in chief and leader. >> gretchen: we should mention that eight republicans have come together to talk about immigration reform as well and they're going to come up wit